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	<title>Comments on: Hardware Questions: Asus M5200N, Ubuntu, GPRS and an iPod Touch?</title>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I don&#039;t have the USB data cable for my phone, only a charging cable, so that won&#039;t work.

I&#039;ve discovered that the problem with intrepid Ubuntu is probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/268502 so I guess I&#039;ll either rebuild the kernel or replace Ubuntu.  I wonder if this is common to all 2.6.27 kernels - I&#039;ll check the kernel changelog when I get time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t have the USB data cable for my phone, only a charging cable, so that won&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve discovered that the problem with intrepid Ubuntu is probably <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/268502">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/268502</a> so I guess I&#8217;ll either rebuild the kernel or replace Ubuntu.  I wonder if this is common to all 2.6.27 kernels &#8211; I&#8217;ll check the kernel changelog when I get time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Kersten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Kersten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I don&#039;t know if your phone supports it, but my k660i lets me go to: 
settings-&gt;Conectivity-&gt;USB-&gt;UsB network type-&gt;Phone as modem.

Then when you plugin the phone to your laptop via USB, it auto connects via network manager- no config needed what-so-ever. Perhaps this is possible with your phone too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if your phone supports it, but my k660i lets me go to:<br />
settings-&gt;Conectivity-&gt;USB-&gt;UsB network type-&gt;Phone as modem.</p>
<p>Then when you plugin the phone to your laptop via USB, it auto connects via network manager- no config needed what-so-ever. Perhaps this is possible with your phone too?</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use the iPod touch with Ubuntu.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone

You can easily go around the new crypto imposed by firmware v2. (there is however a progressing effort on this, but very hush hush, as Apple tends to send take-down notices rather quickly...)

There is a project that is reverse engineering the USB multiplexing that Apple uses for the iPhone/iPod Touch, but it is not completely ready for normal use:

http://matt.colyer.name/projects/iphone-linux/index.php?title=Main_Page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use the iPod touch with Ubuntu.</p>
<p><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone</a></p>
<p>You can easily go around the new crypto imposed by firmware v2. (there is however a progressing effort on this, but very hush hush, as Apple tends to send take-down notices rather quickly&#8230;)</p>
<p>There is a project that is reverse engineering the USB multiplexing that Apple uses for the iPhone/iPod Touch, but it is not completely ready for normal use:</p>
<p><a href="http://matt.colyer.name/projects/iphone-linux/index.php?title=Main_Page">http://matt.colyer.name/projects/iphone-linux/index.php?title=Main_Page</a></p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. well, the default critical temperature is set at 98C, so I&#039;d hope they can, but maybe I have too much faith in the BIOS setup.

2. yes, Bluetooth, with a USB dongle. That reminds me: the gnome bluetooth tray applet didn&#039;t seem to form a usable connection.  It looked like it was connected to the phone, but I couldn&#039;t sdptool browse the phone address.  I guess that&#039;s the first thing to fix.

3. Yeah, I won&#039;t give money to Apple.  It&#039;s only a borrowed iPod, so it should mean one less iPod sold at some point in the future.

Thanks for the question-answers!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. well, the default critical temperature is set at 98C, so I&#8217;d hope they can, but maybe I have too much faith in the BIOS setup.</p>
<p>2. yes, Bluetooth, with a USB dongle. That reminds me: the gnome bluetooth tray applet didn&#8217;t seem to form a usable connection.  It looked like it was connected to the phone, but I couldn&#8217;t sdptool browse the phone address.  I guess that&#8217;s the first thing to fix.</p>
<p>3. Yeah, I won&#8217;t give money to Apple.  It&#8217;s only a borrowed iPod, so it should mean one less iPod sold at some point in the future.</p>
<p>Thanks for the question-answers!</p>
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		<title>By: Marius Gedminas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marius Gedminas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Don&#039;t know about CPU thermal limits, but, personally, I wouldn&#039;t play with it.  Even if the CPU can survive, can the other motherboard components nearby?

2. Are you using Bluetooth to talk to the cell phone?  Then forget N-M (although I think I&#039;ve heard someone post on a blog somewhere the magic HAL .fdi file that makes his cell phone visible to Network Manager).  If you&#039;re using a USB cable, it might Just Work, or, again, you may need to craft a HAL .fdi file.  I don&#039;t know how to craft .fdi files.  I do my dialup the old-fashined way: &#039;pon&#039; in a terminal, with configuration in /etc/ppp/peers and /etc/chatscripts.

3. You&#039;ll have to beg Apple to release the protocol specs and remove the cryptographic vendor lock-in protection.  Good luck.  (This is why I&#039;m not giving any of my money to Apple, even though iPhones and iPod shuffles look very appetizing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Don&#8217;t know about CPU thermal limits, but, personally, I wouldn&#8217;t play with it.  Even if the CPU can survive, can the other motherboard components nearby?</p>
<p>2. Are you using Bluetooth to talk to the cell phone?  Then forget N-M (although I think I&#8217;ve heard someone post on a blog somewhere the magic HAL .fdi file that makes his cell phone visible to Network Manager).  If you&#8217;re using a USB cable, it might Just Work, or, again, you may need to craft a HAL .fdi file.  I don&#8217;t know how to craft .fdi files.  I do my dialup the old-fashined way: &#8216;pon&#8217; in a terminal, with configuration in /etc/ppp/peers and /etc/chatscripts.</p>
<p>3. You&#8217;ll have to beg Apple to release the protocol specs and remove the cryptographic vendor lock-in protection.  Good luck.  (This is why I&#8217;m not giving any of my money to Apple, even though iPhones and iPod shuffles look very appetizing.)</p>
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