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	<title>Comments on: The Great British Broadband Speed Lie</title>
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	<description>What software.coop is doing and contemplating</description>
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		<title>By: Libisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BT recently had a televised advert about how their speed was consistent up to 20 MB, and would never drop.  Well that is a bloody lie!  At best my speed is hitting 5.5 MB, and fluctuates at around 35 - 75 KB when I need it.  Ask BT to explain and they don&#039;t want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BT recently had a televised advert about how their speed was consistent up to 20 MB, and would never drop.  Well that is a bloody lie!  At best my speed is hitting 5.5 MB, and fluctuates at around 35 &#8211; 75 KB when I need it.  Ask BT to explain and they don&#8217;t want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Farnsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Farnsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It varies from ISP to ISP - I&#039;m with a more expensive ISP, Andrews &amp; Arnold, and I&#039;m seeing faster speeds from ADSL2+, no throttling.

As far as I can tell, for all the blame heaped on BT Wholesale, they don&#039;t throttle different ports differently. An ISP can choose to spend enough on infrastructure to offer decent unrestricted service, if it thinks it can make up the money in subscriptions; note that I pay £60 pcm for two telephone lines, a bonded pair of ADSL2+ lines, and a VoIP phone number, which is considerably more than I&#039;d pay for broadband and phone from (say) The Phone Coop, as I use around 10GB/month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It varies from ISP to ISP &#8211; I&#8217;m with a more expensive ISP, Andrews &amp; Arnold, and I&#8217;m seeing faster speeds from ADSL2+, no throttling.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, for all the blame heaped on BT Wholesale, they don&#8217;t throttle different ports differently. An ISP can choose to spend enough on infrastructure to offer decent unrestricted service, if it thinks it can make up the money in subscriptions; note that I pay £60 pcm for two telephone lines, a bonded pair of ADSL2+ lines, and a VoIP phone number, which is considerably more than I&#8217;d pay for broadband and phone from (say) The Phone Coop, as I use around 10GB/month.</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://www.news.software.coop/the-great-british-broadband-speed-lie/729/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected, my service got &quot;improved&quot; during my vacation, from 1.5 Mbps to 1 Mbps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected, my service got &#8220;improved&#8221; during my vacation, from 1.5 Mbps to 1 Mbps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehehe...

Yes, a sad situation.

I&#039;m on aDSL v1, max 8, getting 1.5Mbps in good times.

Not only do you have to cope with this, but my ISP is mainly a web service provider, not an internet service provider as most of the time all the ports outside of HTTP, HTTPS, POP3, IMAP and SMTP are rate limited to 5% of the available bandwidth. An SSH to my servers in the evening is tough.

All this because in most places the aDSL equipment and feed links are owned by BT and rented to the other ISPs.

The over-subscription on the feeds is ridiculous, so instead of investing money on bandwidth and equipment, money is put on rate-limiting infrastructure, or on snail mail warning of terrible usage and other punishment.

The thing is, in most places in the UK, you cannot even exercise your only consumer right to punish the bad ISP, contract cancellation and moving to someone else, as it won;t change a thing, your copper will not even be moved to another piece of equipment and the situation will be the same, with another logo and eventually another name for the &quot;service-enhancing and social equalizing&quot; bandwidth control.

Sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehehe&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, a sad situation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on aDSL v1, max 8, getting 1.5Mbps in good times.</p>
<p>Not only do you have to cope with this, but my ISP is mainly a web service provider, not an internet service provider as most of the time all the ports outside of HTTP, HTTPS, POP3, IMAP and SMTP are rate limited to 5% of the available bandwidth. An SSH to my servers in the evening is tough.</p>
<p>All this because in most places the aDSL equipment and feed links are owned by BT and rented to the other ISPs.</p>
<p>The over-subscription on the feeds is ridiculous, so instead of investing money on bandwidth and equipment, money is put on rate-limiting infrastructure, or on snail mail warning of terrible usage and other punishment.</p>
<p>The thing is, in most places in the UK, you cannot even exercise your only consumer right to punish the bad ISP, contract cancellation and moving to someone else, as it won;t change a thing, your copper will not even be moved to another piece of equipment and the situation will be the same, with another logo and eventually another name for the &#8220;service-enhancing and social equalizing&#8221; bandwidth control.</p>
<p>Sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray (mjray) 's status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-09 07:40:44 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ Ray (mjray) 's status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-09 07:40:44 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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